[Spun out of control]

@million

With your expert knowledge, what would you recommend that is just as good as Weiss & co, but doesn't cost the earth? Genuinely intrigued to sniff out some gems... :)

Thx.

[milliondollars]

@Spun: haha! no expert knowledge, just useless knowledge...

i would say Sound Inventions is almost as good as Time Signals. Sound Inventions goes for arround 30-40 on egay if you have the patience to wait for one to pop up.

for myself, i am a big fan of the Golden Ring catalogue and have picked up almost every good one over the years. there's four Klaus Weiss in there too. #26 is very good and underrated and i have bought a mint copy for 10 € a while ago as this was the one that i have missed. it's straight drums. one side latin america, the other side is africa. no special effects but this one has got the funk and every time i put this on the platter the whole family is up dancing in the living room, haha!
#11 and #18 are epic and probably the best ones i know. they became quite pricey over the years though. as far as i remember Dollarhyde has these, too. #27 is also a nice one but i would not pay more than 30€

hope that helps at least a little...

[Mateo Sanboval]

I second the notion that Sound Inventions is just barely a notch below Time Signals. To me they are of a pair.

[Spun out of control]

Thanks @million and @mateo

Have avoided getting too heavy into the library LP scene as my wallet cannot take it, for one.

But bought Trunk's book on the subject as an Xmas present to myself and intrigued by all these wonderful dusty labels.

That means skimming the cream off the top rather than allowing myself to slip down the rabbit hole that, at least from the postings on here, seems virtually bottomless... :)

[Mateo Sanboval]

Thanks @million and @mateo

Have avoided getting too heavy into the library LP scene as my wallet cannot take it, for one.

But bought Trunk's book on the subject as an Xmas present to myself and intrigued by all these wonderful dusty labels.

That means skimming the cream off the top rather than allowing myself to slip down the rabbit hole that, at least from the postings on here, seems virtually bottomless... :)

I employ a similar technique, Spun, to varying degrees of effectiveness. It is bottomless, but it's fun to play around in. Luckily there are ways to hear a lot of these records and decide for yourself what you want (read: NEED) in your collection.

[texasvinyl]

you need them.....you need them all..... minty originals mmmmmmmm

it's more fun when you get them for a low price, though that is getting harder. I wonder if the tougher economic times in italy are contributing as well as the increased attention. It is a small niche but there aren't many of these out there, and we are all going for the same copies! someone just bought a copy of Femina Ridens (Cipriani) on ebay for like 650, a huge price. I bid for it early on and couldn't believe how high it went for. It's hella dope though :) could probably use another reissue, the vadim from '08 is hard to find too.

[texasvinyl]

This *should* be a cheese fest, and kind of is, but it grows on you like a fungus. There's a certain kind of sophistication that reveals itself. One of those records that you jam out to but probably wouldn't put on in front of friends... It's like a disco sonic the hedgehog or something. I dunno. It just got reissued by an imprint of Cinedelic called maybe mondogroove? I got this minty original for about what the reissue costs...

[deafmetal]

@texas - I would love a copy of Femina Ridens, and even the reissue would be a treat. I have the Digitmovies CD and it gets a lot of digital spins.

[milliondollars]

The Tropicals, oh those lovely Tropicals! this is a fictitious composer supergroup consisting of Barigozzi and Rocchi. the turkish version i have is the more interesting one. not only for the two beautiful.....ahem...lions eyes on the cover. somebody told me the pressing of this one is better than the original one on the italian Jump library label. i can't judge on it because i never came across the other. the sound quality of mine is sublime though. vinyl is ultra-thick, too.

always wondered how this licensing could ever have happen. probably the only library that ever made it to turkey as a comercial release.

the music itself is just brilliant and i dare to say this is one of the three best african/ecotica themed libraries that were ever made...

https://www.discogs.com/The-Tropicals-U ... se/7128545

[milliondollars]

listening to the Tropicals again inspired me to do one more super useless list.

here is the African Library list...

https://www.discogs.com/lists/African-Library/326848

***edit***

the list is most probably not complete...

[ScoJo]

@million-

Great list. I simply must add......the mighty......MANDINGO!!

:D

[milliondollars]

i'm a big Roger Roger fan and he layed down crazy works under his Cecil Leuter pseudonym. this one is a little underrated in my opinion. probably because it is mid 80s. anyway, it s a great library that puts you in a nice sweet melancholy bath. unappealing cover art and strange title by the way, haha!

https://www.discogs.com/C%C3%A9cil-Leut ... se/1431463

[milliondollars]

another case of italian insanity. absolutely confusing and probably only Lucifer himself knows the answer to this mystery. this one seems to be written by Jan Stoeckart (under his Jack Trombey pseudonym) according to the De Wolfe release. these tunes appear also on the mighty italian Squirrel label, written by Giuliano Sorgini (under his Raskovich pseudonym).

the funny thing is people wet their pants for the italian one, while they turn their nose up the other. i wonder how often this is the case and people don't know about it. would love to know more of these...

besides these strange facts...it is a very nice funky , jazzy record, haha!

***edit***
the cover art on the De Wolfe one is much better, too...

https://www.discogs.com/Jack-Trombey-Jo ... se/2100895
https://www.discogs.com/Raskovich-Disco ... se/4933072

[texasvinyl]

I didn't know about that, I suspect most don't which is why the de Wolfe is under the radar. I do prefer the squirrel cover... Also that label is kind of mythical I think because of the accade Arawak record.

I do know another weird one like that, also involving Sorgini. There is a (great!!) record called MacQueen on the Leo label under the artist name "Oggi & Domani" who I've never seen listed anywhere else. It has two tracks from the legendary Under Pompelmo, but it was also published two years before Under Pompelmo...Go figure.

[Mateo Sanboval]

Will wonders never cease?

Sincerely, I think this is one of the reasons why Library records in general, but Italian libraries specifically, are such an all-consuming affair for folks. There's an air of mystery about them. It begins with the myriad pseudonyms and just gets weirder from there.

[milliondollars]

the funny thing about this italian/non-italian library thing is that people hype the records extremely even if the music is not worse (in the case above, it is the same record). just imagine the Sonor guys would sell this particular Squirrel record on eBay. I can only imagine how exaggerated the description would look like. nobody would even care about the same record from the UK though...

[milliondollars]

the last few posts inspired me to do this nasty little one...

gentlemen, here is the boobs library list:

https://www.discogs.com/lists/Library-r ... ies/329776

[ScoJo]

@million -

Duuuuude!

[deafmetal]

gentlemen, here is the boobs library list:

https://www.discogs.com/lists/Library-r ... ies/329776

The internet was invented for posts like this one. Hats off to you, good sir.

[texasvinyl]

the funny thing about this italian/non-italian library thing is that people hype the records extremely even if the music is not worse (in the case above, it is the same record). just imagine the Sonor guys would sell this particular Squirrel record on eBay. I can only imagine how exaggerated the description would look like. nobody would even care about the same record from the UK though...

It would be 1000 words of "MEGA top rare, insane tripped out dope bboy breaks, druggy madness sitar funk" etc

I actually won a few of his auctions recently for low prices, Intermezzi record $68 and progetto Europa $28, and I was surprised that the I Marc vol 2 and the Shopping in Carnaby went for pretty low prices. Maybe I should have bid on I Marc since I have the one with the worn corner ;)

[texasvinyl]

[texasvinyl]

the last few posts inspired me to do this nasty little one...

gentlemen, here is the boobs library list:

https://www.discogs.com/lists/Library-r ... ies/329776

Maybe this doesn't count as library...But it has nice boob cover https://www.discogs.com/Augusto-Martell ... ase/903830

[texasvinyl]

Nice recommendation on this one, @million. Took a while to track down a copy for a low price, but it's a nice pleasant listen for sure. Good easy morning music... And also right about the jacket. Even more fragile than Esperimenti, it's basically printed on construction paper!

[texasvinyl]

Some decent suspense tracks on here to go with the weird "dog attacking guy in the mountains" cover picture.

[milliondollars]

cheers @Texas: i like the L'Italia Vista a lot...