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By Bezulsqy
#152224
Monday we watched Dirty Harry. I completely forgot the plot of the first one. Magnum Force is the one I have probably seen the most.

When I was looking who the killer was played by I remembered that Andrew Robinson starred in a lot of interesting movies. One that looked promising and that I never had seen before was Shoot to Kill from Roger Spottiswoode. I watched it today. And in that movie Clancy Brown plays Steve but he also was in Buckaroo Bonzai that I watched last weekend!

So now I am tempted the link one movie to the next and see how far I can get. But with the caveat that I do want to watch some newer movies as well in between. I might try to keep the link to the actors... Because if I add crew than anything probably is possible :-)

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So which one is next? A lot to choose from as I have Sidney Poitier or Tom Berenger to use as a link. Or even a Richard Masur.
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By ScoJo
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Bezulsqy wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:26 pm Monday we watched Dirty Harry. I completely forgot the plot of the first one. Magnum Force is the one I have probably seen the most.

When I was looking who the killer was played by I remembered that Andrew Robinson starred in a lot of interesting movies. One that looked promising and that I never had seen before was Shoot to Kill from Roger Spottiswoode. I watched it today. And in that movie Clancy Brown plays Steve but he also was in Buckaroo Bonzai that I watched last weekend!

So now I am tempted the link one movie to the next and see how far I can get. But with the caveat that I do want to watch some newer movies as well in between. I might try to keep the link to the actors... Because if I add crew than anything probably is possible :-)

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So which one is next? A lot to choose from as I have Sidney Poitier or Tom Berenger to use as a link. Or even a Richard Masur.
I vouch for Berenger in Shattered or Someone to Watch Over Me (both gf friendly too imho) if you haven’t already seen.
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By Bezulsqy
#152244
Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986)

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This is a very depressing movie. But it is a brilliant one. I believe I had only seen it once previously and that was at least 25 years ago.
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By Bezulsqy
#152246
Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002)

I had very little knowledge about Bob Crane... I didn't now this movie was sort of a biography. Terrific flick though!

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By inksb
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So I some how have gone most of my life with out realizing there's two versions of The Shining. A 143min cut released in the US and 114min International cut. I've only ever seen the US version, unless the one playing on HBO in the 90's was the shorter one. I'm going to have to check out the shorter cut, seems like most people prefer that version? What do you folks think? I feel like most of you were already aware of this and I'm just an idiot.
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By inksb
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The Boogeyman dir by Rob Savage

Initially I had zero interest in checking this out, just another King adaption in what has been a bit of a flood of them over the last few years. It wasn't until I started hearing praise for it from people that I generally have similar taste in films to. The director was a podcast I listen to a few weeks ago and his genuine love for King and horror in general gave me much more confidence in the film. It just went up on VOD yesterday so I bought it and gave it chance, well to my surprise I thought it was quite good. It's not perfect and has some typical shit for this kind of film but overall the film hinged on it's 3 main characters performances and it delivered. I thought the changes worked to bring the story into a more modern era. Moments of genuine creepiness sprinkled through out, some decent effects (a few shoddy ones too) and good sound design. I recommend giving this one a go it's pretty good
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By Bezulsqy
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inksb wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:39 pm So I some how have gone most of my life with out realizing there's two versions of The Shining. A 143min cut released in the US and 114min International cut. I've only ever seen the US version, unless the one playing on HBO in the 90's was the shorter one. I'm going to have to check out the shorter cut, seems like most people prefer that version? What do you folks think? I feel like most of you were already aware of this and I'm just an idiot.
If I knew that I forgot about it... :-)
I have seen the 143 4K release of the Shining. And I got to see a version at the theatre five years or so ago. In the Netherlands. But I don't remember what cut that was.
Always a good excuses to rewatch The Shining though...
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By Bezulsqy
#152258
Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson
Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022)

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I really liked this one.
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By Bezulsqy
#152260
Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson
Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005)

This was actually not bad except for the final act...

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This one does give me a lot of options for a next movie.
Jody Foster? Peter Sasgaard? Sean Bean? Maybe Kate Beahan and a revisit of Chopper! I haven't seen that one in ages...
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By deafmetal
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re: The Shining versions, I had forgotten some of this as well. Pulled from IMDB:

The Shining" initially opened on 10 screens in New York City and Los Angeles on Memorial Day weekend in 1980. Three days after the release of the film, Stanley Kubrick and Warner Bros. ordered all projectionists to cut about 2 minutes from the end of the film, and send the footage back to the studio. Starting after the closeup of frozen Jack, the camera goes to a pullback shot with part of a state trooper's car and the legs of troopers walking around in the foreground. We then cut to the hotel manager Stuart Ullman (Barry Nelson) walking down a hospital hallway to the nurse's station to inquire her (Robin Pappas} about Danny and Wendy. He's told they're both doing well and proceeds to Wendy's room. After some gentle conversation, he tells Wendy that searchers have been unable to locate any evidence of the apparitions she saw. Additionally, Jack's body cannot be located. We then cut to the camera silently roaming the halls of the Overlook Hotel for about a minute until it comes up to the wall with the photographs, where it [back to the ending as it is now known] fades in on the photo of Jack in the 1921 picture.

When released theatrically in the United States, the film ran approx. 146 minutes. However, as explained above, less than one week into its release, Kubrick cut the 2 minute coda from the end of the film, reducing its length to 144 minutes. After meeting with poor reviews and erratic box office, Kubrick decided to further edit the film for its theatrical release outside the US. He cut approximately 31 minutes of footage, reducing the length to 113 minutes. The 144 minute 'US version' is often erroneously called the director's cut when in fact director Kubrick regards both the 119 minute version and the 144 minute version as director's cuts. Nevertheless, the longer version is the version now most commonly available. The following is a list of all the scenes or parts of scenes not present in the shorter 'European version':

After the first scene with Wendy (Shelley Duvall) and Danny (Danny Lloyd), the film cuts back to Jack (Jack Nicholson) at the Overlook, where his interview with Stuart Ullman (Barry Nelson) continues. Jack is introduced to Bill Watson (Barry Dennen), and Ullman tells Watson that Jack used to work as a schoolteacher. Jack says he became a writer because he needed a change in his life. Ullman then explains that the Overlook is closed every winter from the end of October to the following May, because it would be too expensive to keep the roads open, and he points out that the site was chosen specifically for its seclusion.

When Danny first 'sees' the Grady twins in his bathroom at home, he blacks out. When he awakes, he is being examined by a doctor (Anne Jackson). This entire examination scene, and the subsequent conversations were all cut. Danny says that before his black-out he was talking to Tony, "the little boy who lives inside my mouth". Wendy and the Doctor then talk in private, and Wendy mentions an incident in which Jack dislocated Danny's shoulder in a drunken fit of temper, at which time he swore never to touch alcohol again. That was five months ago, and since then, he has kept his word.

During their tour of the Overlook, Jack and Wendy are brought into the Colorado Lounge, and Wendy asks if the Indian designs are authentic. Ullman explains that they are based on ancient Navajo and Apache motifs. He then mentions the prestigious history of the hotel, saying it was a stopping place for the jet set, for four presidents, movie stars and "all the best people".

The beginning of the scene where Ullman shows Jack and Wendy the hotel grounds has been cut. He points out "our famous hedge maze" and warns them not to go in unless they have an hour or so to spare.

Prior to the introduction of Dick Hallorann (Scatman Crothers), Ullman shows off The Gold Room and explains that all liquor is removed during the winter so as to reduce insurance costs. Hallorann is then introduced, and the secretary Susie (Alison Coleridge) appears, having found Danny outside the games room. Ullman then leaves with Jack, and Hallorann takes Wendy around the kitchen.

Some of Danny's conversation with Hallorann has been cut. Danny asks Hallorann if he is scared of the Overlook, and Hallorann replies that he isn't, but that "some places are like people, some shine and some don't. I guess you could say the Overlook Hotel here has something about it that's like shining."

The first few shots of Wendy wheeling the breakfast tray through the corridors have been cut.

The end of the scene where Wendy brings Jack his breakfast has been cut. He comments that he has never been as happy or as comfortable anywhere as he is in the Overlook and Wendy reveals that she thought the place was scary when they first arrived. Jack replies that he fell in love with it straight away and he felt as if he had been there before.

The scene of Jack throwing the ball against the wall is shorter.

After Wendy and Danny explore the maze, a sequence has been cut showing Wendy working in the kitchen while a TV announcer talks of a search in the mountains for a missing woman, and a snow-storm that is predicted to be moving in on Colorado.

Following the scene in which Jack loses his temper with Wendy for interrupting him, the title THURSDAY was deleted.

After the scene in which Danny is confronted by the Grady twins in the corridor, and they invite him to play with them, a scene has been cut in which Wendy and Danny are watching TV. Danny asks if he can go to his room to get his toy fire-engine and Wendy tells him to be quiet because Jack is sleeping.

Some dialogue has been cut from the first conversation between Jack and Lloyd (Joe Turkel). Jack toasts, "Here's to five miserable months on the wagon and all the irreparable harm that it's caused me". Lloyd then asks him how things are, and Jack comments that they could be a whole lot better, that he is having trouble with his wife. Lloyd comments, "Women! Can't live with 'em. Can't live without 'em", and Jack wholeheartedly agrees.

After he has returned from examining Room 237, Jack's conversation with Wendy is slightly shorter.

After the scene between Jack and Grady (Philip Stone), a sequence has been cut in which Wendy is seen crying and talking to herself, musing about the possibility of getting down the mountain in the Sno-cat, and of calling the Forest Rangers. She then hears Danny calling out "red rum" over and over, but when she tries to talk to him, she is only 'answered' by Tony, who tells her that Danny can't hear her.

A scene has been cut in which Hallorann tries to get through to the Overlook by calling the Ranger station. They tell him that they've tried to get through several times but there has been no answer, and they offer to try again later.

Prior to the shot of Hallorann's plane, the title 8AM has been deleted.

On the plane, Hallorann asks a stewardess what time they are due to land in Denver and she tells him at 8.20. Jack is then seen typing in the lounge of the Overlook. Hallorann's plane lands at the airport and he calls Larry Durkin (Tony Burton), a garage owner, to rent a Sno-cat so as to get up to the Overlook. Durkin says the mountain roads are completely blocked off, and Hallorann explains that the people looking after the hotel turned out to be "completely unreliable assholes". Hallorann estimates that it will take him five hours to drive from the airport to collect the cat, and Larry says the Snow-cat will be waiting for him when he arrives.

The beginning of the scene in which Wendy finds Jack's type-written pages has been cut. She and Danny are watching television and she looks at her watch, telling Danny that she is going to talk to his father for a few minutes and that he should stay there. She picks up the baseball bat before leaving.

In the final scene, when Jack is pursuing Danny through the maze and Wendy is being confronted by some of the Overlook spooks, a short scene where she encounters a group of skeletons sitting at a table with a champagne bottle and glasses has been cut.
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By static14
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Bezulsqy wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:23 pm Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson
Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005)

This was actually not bad except for the final act...

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This one does give me a lot of options for a next movie.
Jody Foster? Peter Sasgaard? Sean Bean? Maybe Kate Beahan and a revisit of Chopper! I haven't seen that one in ages...
Stick with Jodie Foster and go with The Brave One. Under appreciated 70's style revenge flick.
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By zuko
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Bezulsqy wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:23 pm Sean Bean?
Ronin (1998) – I was listening to a podcast that mentioned this the other day and reminded me I haven’t seen that one for years,
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By ScoJo
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zuko wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:35 am
Bezulsqy wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:23 pm Sean Bean?
Ronin (1998) – I was listening to a podcast that mentioned this the other day and reminded me I haven’t seen that one for years,
Masterpiece
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By Bezulsqy
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@Static and @Zuko
Great choices. I have seen Ronin a couple of times and don’t think I have seen The Brave One.
No time this weekend though.
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By ScoJo
#152273
Brave One is good, a tough watch though. Like Death Wish but not fun.

I’m heading to see Equalizer 3 in theatre next week so happily rewatching first two this weekend. The first film fucks so hard, love it. Fuqua is the spiritual heir to Tony Scott! It was better than the first time. Hoping that E2 is also a bit better than I remember.
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By Bezulsqy
#152286
Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger
Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson
Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005) -> Jody Foster
Jody Foster -> The Brave One (2007)


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Thanks @Static for the recommendation. As @ScoJo said, indeed not an easy watch. Very well acted by Jody Foster.
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By Bezulsqy
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Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005) -> Jody Foster
Jody Foster -> The Brave One (2007) -> Nicky Katt -> Sin City (2005)

First time watching the recut extended version.
And I really love the score. That saxophone sound... Never released on wax apparently.

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A lot of option to go from here. But it will be Rutger Hauer. And I already know which one :-)
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By inksb
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I haven't watched Sin City in ages. I remember not caring for the recut version and prefer the theatrical.

I think I may revisit that soon.
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By Bezulsqy
#152296
inksb wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:07 pm I haven't watched Sin City in ages. I remember not caring for the recut version and prefer the theatrical.

I think I may revisit that soon.
I believe I had never even seen it in HD. Only on DVD back then. And I liked the idea of the recut version, but I think the theatrical might make for a better movie experience.
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By inksb
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Bezulsqy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:58 am
inksb wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:07 pm I haven't watched Sin City in ages. I remember not caring for the recut version and prefer the theatrical.

I think I may revisit that soon.
I believe I had never even seen it in HD. Only on DVD back then. And I liked the idea of the recut version, but I think the theatrical might make for a better movie experience.
The idea of having each story contained is interesting but the pace is off, it worked much better all cross cut together.
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By Bezulsqy
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Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005) -> Jody Foster -> The Brave One (2007) -> Nicky Katt -> Sin City (2005) -> Rutger Hauer
Rutger Hauer -> Flesh + Blood (1985)

This was brilliant!

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By ScoJo
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Bezulsqy wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:15 pm Dirty Harry (1971) -> Andrew Robinson -> Shoot to Kill (1988) -> Tom Berenger -> Platoon (1986) -> Willem Dafoe -> Auto Focus (2002) -> Rita Wilson -> Kimi (2022) -> Erika Christensen -> Flightplan (2005) -> Jody Foster -> The Brave One (2007) -> Nicky Katt -> Sin City (2005) -> Rutger Hauer
Rutger Hauer -> Flesh + Blood (1985)

This was brilliant!

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