[Mateo Sanboval]

Damn you were too quick for my second guess. Nice list.

I’ve only listened to bob James one and two. Are those the early albums your talking about? Did he do anything earlier than those?

Those are the ones I was thinking of on CTI. Really all of his stuff through touchdown is pretty great. To me anyway.

[texasvinyl]

Great vibes! Didn't know that one was out as Tone Poet, has now landed high up on my wishlist. On that note, my wishlist in terms of Jazz records has pretty much exploded in the last . It's not that I haven't been listening to Jazz already for years but the way I have been bitten by the Jazz bug this time is something else. Don't know if that has to do with the current state of the world, me appreciating other types of Jazz more, or me just getting older and/or more interested in musical craftmanship but in any case it's a very rewarding journey. Also happy that I invested in a solid DAC/streamer last year and can do the high-res streaming thing to expand my horizon and to properly check out some albums I'm interested in before purchasing the vinyl version as these can be quite expensive.

That said, there is also a market for OG Jazz records and purists might prefer those. But finding clean/NM or even VG+ copies of the top shelf albums (or even Tier B or whatever) nowerdays is REALLY expensive.

I'm.not sure either Chris. I was thinking about that too. I've always had jazz stuff around since I had records around. For me I think it was a few things. I had the wrong records. Too much late coltrane, free jazz, and of the few good records I had bad pressings like a Waxtime. Just a lot of mediocre not bad but not amazing stuff. I was chasing drums and breaks and funk stuff, and I had the jazz but it was never a primary focus. I did have a ton of miles davis and late Donald byrd.

And then I put Groovin with Golson on, loud, and something just clicked. Something about the way art blakey drumming was simple but he was totally in control, and I started hearing tension and swagger. I went back through my own collection, at least what I didn't sell over the years, and also started picking up good earlier pressings of better records and hearing things in a different way.

Picked this Shorter up today. I'll need to give it more attention. I think these guys are ahead of me on the B side! "playground" is pretty wild and I can't hang. I like " Tom Thumb" quite a bit. I was surprised to find this in half price books, the only even halfway decent jazz record in there. White B 70s, and a NM copy.

[CrossedPete]

This album is great!

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[texasvinyl]

I need to check that out. Lineup is excellent.

I can't get over this Cookers live set.



It's like hubbard and Morgan were having a heavyweight boxing match, dancing, telling jokes and having a dick measuring contest all at once. Morgan opens with a muted trumpet, and once they get going the rest of the guys just keep the groove cooking and sit back and watch the show, and for like 20 minutes the two trumpets burn the place to the ground.



On the B side it starts relatively normal hard bop, but before long spaulding gets pretty adventurous with the sax, and you get some pretty crazy action from the rhythm section. Spaulding starts ascending to mars and the rhythm dudes are in another dimension, and right when you think they're going to get lost in the wilderness they pull it back from the astral plane
back into the bop groove, but big black la roca and larry ridley are still going nuclear. completely bananas!! they are in another place.

I definitely need vol 2 now.

[ChrisMcQueen007]

I'm.not sure either Chris. I was thinking about that too. I've always had jazz stuff around since I had records around. For me I think it was a few things. I had the wrong records. Too much late coltrane, free jazz, and of the few good records I had bad pressings like a Waxtime. Just a lot of mediocre not bad but not amazing stuff. I was chasing drums and breaks and funk stuff, and I had the jazz but it was never a primary focus. I did have a ton of miles davis and late Donald byrd.

And then I put Groovin with Golson on, loud, and something just clicked. Something about the way art blakey drumming was simple but he was totally in control, and I started hearing tension and swagger. I went back through my own collection, at least what I didn't sell over the years, and also started picking up good earlier pressings of better records and hearing things in a different way.

Picked this Shorter up today. I'll need to give it more attention. I think these guys are ahead of me on the B side! "playground" is pretty wild and I can't hang. I like " Tom Thumb" quite a bit. I was surprised to find this in half price books, the only even halfway decent jazz record in there. White B 70s, and a NM copy.

I fully get that, Texas. There‘s this moment when it just clicks.

The Cookers live set is a great recommendation. Listened to that while working (from home) today, got me in good flow.

[texasvinyl]

Pensive stuff especially the title track which is all whole notes.

[CrossedPete]

I need to check that out. Lineup is excellent.

I can't get over this Cookers live set.



It's like hubbard and Morgan were having a heavyweight boxing match, dancing, telling jokes and having a dick measuring contest all at once. Morgan opens with a muted trumpet, and once they get going the rest of the guys just keep the groove cooking and sit back and watch the show, and for like 20 minutes the two trumpets burn the place to the ground.



On the B side it starts relatively normal hard bop, but before long spaulding gets pretty adventurous with the sax, and you get some pretty crazy action from the rhythm section. Spaulding starts ascending to mars and the rhythm dudes are in another dimension, and right when you think they're going to get lost in the wilderness they pull it back from the astral plane
back into the bop groove, but big black la roca and larry ridley are still going nuclear. completely bananas!! they are in another place.

I definitely need vol 2 now.

Hey Tex thanks for sharing these. I love a good live album. I pretty much spent my whole day at work streaming this album. I have to track down the Record for sure. Still didn’t listen to vol.2 yet but i definitely will.

[CrossedPete]

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[Mateo Sanboval]

Nice one, Pete.

[Mateo Sanboval]

An album truly worthy of the "classic" moniker. I always enjoy Horace's interplay with horns, but it is truly something special here with Humphries and Henderson. The title track alone is worth the price of admission.

[Mateo Sanboval]

Sticking with the heavy hitters for another spin. This is part of the Miles In Mono series Columbia launched a few years back. I'm not sure, but I don't believe this is a AAA. That said, you really cannot tell. It's the best I've heard this album sound.

[static14]

Is that the 2013 release?

[texasvinyl]

I had that one, I agree sounds nice 1lp mono. The sony 2013 one for RSD

The 2LP 45rpm mofi smokes it though, they're doing another run of that version I think

[Mateo Sanboval]

Is that the 2013 release?

I believe so, Static. Right around there anyhow.

I had that one, I agree sounds nice 1lp mono. The sony 2013 one for RSD

The 2LP 45rpm mofi smokes it though, they're doing another run of that version I think

I'm sure that 45 sounds grand, but I'm not a 2xLP of a 1LP fellow. I have a few, but it's just not for me.

[Mateo Sanboval]

Not much to say here, just a pair of greats teaming up on a classic Impulse title. A beautiful record.

[texasvinyl]

I pulled out the two Kind of Blue to do an A/B. Both are good, dynamic pressings. The mono is cut a little louder. The sound is pretty different- mono very cymbal-forward with the bass lower in the mix. The stereo has much more low end presence. Funny they are not quite the same speed, synced up on quartz locked decks they get off track, the mono is a hair faster.

https://we.tl/t-nvUqK912XM

both on the same type of needle w/ all EQ flat

[Mateo Sanboval]

Thanks, Tex. I'll check this out tonight. Or tomorrow if tonight gets away from me. I love this sort of thing. Interesting that the mono is a hair faster as I recall now, anecdotally, that the mono remaster was supposed to have been one of the versions that corrected a long standing speed issue with that particular record. Maybe not so much. Or maybe I'm misremembering.

[ChrisMcQueen007]

Mateo, you are really pulling out the big guns lately!

Kind of Blue was my entry ticket into Jazz, guess like for millions of others. Still love the album, if I don't know what to listen to KoB is a definitive contender to land on the platter. I've owned a couple of pressings throughout the years (not the Mono one you played though), I do own the Mofi - can understand if the frequent side flipping is not your thing, it sounds great though.

Duke & Trane you said everything that needs to be said.

Songs for my Father is woderful. Don't know why but I only listened to it a couple of months ago for the first time - but since then it has been on constant rotation.

[Mateo Sanboval]

I pulled out the two Kind of Blue to do an A/B. Both are good, dynamic pressings. The mono is cut a little louder. The sound is pretty different- mono very cymbal-forward with the bass lower in the mix. The stereo has much more low end presence. Funny they are not quite the same speed, synced up on quartz locked decks they get off track, the mono is a hair faster.

https://we.tl/t-nvUqK912XM

both on the same type of needle w/ all EQ flat

So, as expected, last night was a full dance card so I'm just now getting around to lending an ear to Tex's handiwork. I must say it just as you've described, Tex. The mono is audibly louder and cymbal forward - almost glaringly so- but sounds notably brighter in this sample than it does on my rig. It's no surprise that the KG remaster has a bigger low end; that's his calling card of late with the Jazz reissues. What's interesting to me is the speed difference which, as I mentioned above, was reportedly resolved in the late 90s or early aughts. That leads me to wonder if the mono was in fact pressed from an older, ill-timed master. Very intersting stuff. Thanks again, Tex.

For the record, I'm not against 45 rpm pressings or even 2LP pressings of single LP albums for any sonic reasons. And it's not that I object to flipping sides twice as much. Most of the time, anyway. It's that I really do enjoy the Album Experience. The two sides, the original presentation, call it what you will. I've always liked keeping that part of the experience intact. But I've made exceptions before...

[texasvinyl]

The bass groove on the title track!! And crazy lineup.

[texasvinyl]

An album truly worthy of the "classic" moniker. I always enjoy Horace's interplay with horns, but it is truly something special here with Humphries and Henderson. The title track alone is worth the price of admission.

It really is so good. Lonely Woman, geez. Those first six or seven chords.

[texasvinyl]

This was recorded the same day as the US house of representatives passed the civil rights act of 1964. Hubbard wrote an original, The Core dedicated to the congress of racial equality which organized the march on Washington. Blakey is in another place.

[Mateo Sanboval]

That is a record I do not have. The SRX is currently too rich for my blood, but perhaps it'll garner a reissue in one of their current series.

[texasvinyl]

These people listing them for 400 bucks can pound sand!!

[CrossedPete]

Figured I would join in and spin this bad boy today. I picked this up years ago like most this was my first true jazz album I owned and for a long time the only jazz album in my collection. It’s a 1st press mono copy and it sounds pretty good to me.

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