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By Bezulsqy
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I found it strange that those three titles I mentioned are the only ones that have (video) behind them on iMDB. That is why is was not sure. I understand that most of his flicks went straight to video...

16. Double Team (1997)

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This was very enjoyable. Great action sequences. But I find it hard to classify. I liked Maximum Risk more. But I also liked every movie in spot 7. So it goes with that bunch. At this point I have seen only 1 bad JCVD movie: Street Fighter. Black Eagle is not a bad movie but I found it to be too boring and JCVD is not the main star. It is going to be very hard to see if I can place other movies somewhere between spots 1 to 7...
The top 6 as it stands now are different enough from each other and all terrific. Everything under 7 are variations of those first 6 I think... Although Cyborg is a class of its own :-)



1. Timecop
2. Hard Target
3. Bloodsport
4. Cyborg
5. Nowhere to Run
6. Maximum Risk

7. Lionheart
7. Kickboxer
7. No Retreat, No Surrender
7. Death Warrant
7. Double Impact (of course everyone should see this one, same as Cyborg)
7. Sudden Death
7. The Quest
7. Double Team

8. Black Eagle
9. Street Fighter
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By Mateo Sanboval
#136671
I love this endeavor and I agree on Double Team.
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By inksb
#136674
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm I love this endeavor and I agree on Double Team.
Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
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By ChrisMcQueen007
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First time viewing. Got inspired by the Sitting Target and The American Friend vibes over at the Vinyl Now Playing forum.
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By Mateo Sanboval
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inksb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm I love this endeavor and I agree on Double Team.
Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
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By inksb
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Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm
inksb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm I love this endeavor and I agree on Double Team.
Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
Sounds good.

I hate Seagal. I remember liking a few when I was younger but upon revisiting some over the last decade I do not enjoy them as much as I once did.
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By Mateo Sanboval
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inksb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:11 am
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm
inksb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm

Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
Sounds good.

I hate Seagal. I remember liking a few when I was younger but upon revisiting some over the last decade I do not enjoy them as much as I once did.
Sorry for your loss.
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By Hatter313
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ChrisMcQueen007 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:05 pm First time viewing. Got inspired by the Sitting Target and The American Friend vibes over at the Vinyl Now Playing forum.
This is such a cool flick, one of my criterion blind buys whenever it was they put the disc out. I just remember looking at the cast and the director and thinking it would be a slam dunk, and it was.
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By ChrisMcQueen007
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@Hatter: Yeah, fully agree, I enjoyed it a lot. I also blind bought the Criterion as I was pretty sure I‘d like it.
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By Mateo Sanboval
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I've never seen The Hit, but have often hovered over the buy button at various Criterion sales over the years.
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By Hatter313
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Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:29 pm I've never seen The Hit, but have often hovered over the buy button at various Criterion sales over the years.
It’s definitely one of the better blind buys I’ve done from them.
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By Bezulsqy
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Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm
inksb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm I love this endeavor and I agree on Double Team.
Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
@Mateo: have you seen all of the JCVD flicks? I managed to get a copy of all of them except for one. And that one has a rating of 7.4 on iMDB ... Full Love (2014). That one sounds like a brilliant movie. I tried looking for it under the different names it was released but cannot find a digital copy. I will find it eventually (or buy it ...).

It looks like I have 44 movies with JCVD in a starring role. So I am 1/3 of the way. Thankfully I have time during the week to watch these. I hope that will remain the case for the next couple of months.

Seagal, Norris, Bronson.... I think I might need to catch my breath after my JCVD run. But who knows. I do love a challenge!


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When searching for Full Love it appears it has never been released. It looks like there were a lot of issues with rights. Also some reshoots. No idea. I can cross that one of my list then :-)

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https://variety.com/2010/film/markets-f ... 117942747/
It was released in 2010 in Cannes and two critics were not impressed. In 2012 there appear to have been some reshoot according to some site. I doubt this will ever have a normal release.
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By ChrisMcQueen007
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Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:29 pm I've never seen The Hit, but have often hovered over the buy button at various Criterion sales over the years.
You should pull the trigger next time, pretty sure you‘d enjoy it.
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By Mateo Sanboval
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Bez, I have never seen that film, or heard of it. Probably for all the reasons you fleshed out. Scanning that IMDb, I believe that I have seen every major JCVD role through 2018. I'm not counting cameos and voice roles. Remember, though, that I saw many of these in real time so my views of them might be pretty different than someone packing them all in over a short period. It's a lot easier to enjoy the subtle nuances of DTV flicks when you're not trying to power through your fifth of the weekend.
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By CrossedPete
#136723
inksb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:11 am
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm
inksb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm

Can you give me a ranking of JCVD films post The Quest? You can PM it to me just in case you don't want to color @bez list at the moment. I know I've been very dismissive of his career post The Quest up to JCVD.
I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
Sounds good.

I hate Seagal. I remember liking a few when I was younger but upon revisiting some over the last decade I do not enjoy them as much as I once did.
It’s a shame you hate Seagal. His first 4 or 5 movies are just solid. He has a couple other great movies sprinkled in as well. But just like VanDamme when it comes to DTV releases I have no clue what’s good. I can remember one where he plays a Russian but he still sounds like Seagal.

Any love for Michael Douglas action flicks? I love the likes of Black Rain, Falling Down, The Ghost in the Darkness and the Game to name a few. Just thinking about it I might throw one of these on tonight.
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By Mateo Sanboval
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CrossedPete wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:17 pm
inksb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:11 am
Mateo Sanboval wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm

I'll see what I can come up with. I plan to formulate a complete list to publish after Bez is through so we can lock horns on the finer points. And hopefully convince him to do Seagal next.
Sounds good.

I hate Seagal. I remember liking a few when I was younger but upon revisiting some over the last decade I do not enjoy them as much as I once did.
It’s a shame you hate Seagal. His first 4 or 5 movies are just solid. He has a couple other great movies sprinkled in as well. But just like VanDamme when it comes to DTV releases I have no clue what’s good. I can remember one where he plays a Russian but he still sounds like Seagal.

Any love for Michael Douglas action flicks? I love the likes of Black Rain, Falling Down, The Ghost in the Darkness and the Game to name a few. Just thinking about it I might throw one of these on tonight.
All three fine, fine films. Black Rain is probably my favorite there, but it's a tough call.
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By Hatter313
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Ghost in the darkness is a cool flick but I actually think Douglas might be a little miscast . Actually I think both of them are on the cusp of being a little miscast and I’m not sure Kilmers accent sucks it’s landing so to speak, but I still dig that movie a lot.

Black rain on the other hand is excellent from every angle.
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By CrossedPete
#136743
I was kinda leaning toward Falling Down for tonight but I might change it to Black Rain. It might just be a Michael Douglas double feature kinda a night.
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By Bezulsqy
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17. Knock Off (1998)

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I do not know what to say... But I want that song that is used in the credits on a 12". When looking for it on youtube one of the comments under that video says it best:
The movie goes from stupid to genius once you understand it's actually made to be a knock-off of the HK action movies.


At first I was thinking that one needs to be under the influence of a substance or 12 years old to enjoy this movie. But the action sequences are insane. And the cheese is totally different than in Double Impact.
It is a must see JCVD for sure.

I have no idea where to put this. In the beginning I was really thinking to put this in the one to last spot. Moments later it went up another spot. And by the end is to different and great to be put together with the bunch.

1. Timecop
2. Hard Target
3. Bloodsport
4. Cyborg
5. Nowhere to Run
6. Maximum Risk
7. Knock Off

8. Lionheart
8. Kickboxer
8. No Retreat, No Surrender
8. Death Warrant
8. Double Impact (of course everyone should see this one, same as Cyborg)
8. Sudden Death
8. The Quest
8. Double Team

9. Black Eagle
10. Street Fighter

And finally I have a top ten!!!!
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By Bezulsqy
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18. Legionnaire (1998)

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This was very entertaining. I really liked it. Do I like it more than Maximum Risk...It is very close though.

All in all I had a very enjoyable and surprising JCVD afternoon.

1. Timecop
2. Hard Target
3. Bloodsport
4. Cyborg
5. Nowhere to Run
6. Maximum Risk
7. Legionnaire
8. Knock Off

9. Lionheart
9. Kickboxer
9. No Retreat, No Surrender
9. Death Warrant
9. Double Impact (of course everyone should see this one, same as Cyborg)
9. Sudden Death
9. The Quest
9. Double Team

10. Black Eagle
11. Street Fighter
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By inksb
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I didn't realize so many of JCVD mid to late 90's films were directed by HK vets like Tsui Hark & Ringo Lam. At the time when I watched them I just didn't know who they were, many years later it's fascinating to learn. I need to revisit Knock Off, I have zero recollection of it and seeing it placed in the top 10 means it's time to watch it.

I ended up watching Maximum Risk over the weekend and realized I have actually seen it and just forgot what movie it was. Very good and an incredibly young and attractive Natasha Henstridge.
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