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By tonyandrewgiles
#34987
One of the hardest choices I've ever made.

For me it's Alien but only marginally, they're both fantastic but Alien has Aliens just piped at the post.
By DISCOSUCKS...
#34991
Alien.

But you're right - it's very tough as they're completely different films, not even in the same genre in my book! And both top of their respective class....

But....there's nothing in the first film that makes me cringe the way some of the Newt stuff does in Pt 2. Cameron may be brilliant and a trail-blazer in so many ways, but his dialogue can often be excruciating! (Terminator 2 has more of this than Aliens, though...)

And Alien just fucking kills. If you see it with an audience today, on a big screen, it has almost exactly the same effect that it had at the time. Someone who has never experienced it will still come out completely rocked.
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By tonyandrewgiles
#34995
I think I'm gonna throw Aliens on, as films go it has to be one of the most quotable for me.
By DISCOSUCKS...
#34997
Can't go wrong on a Sunday afternoon...

Didn't realise that you meant "to throw on now" brother, was thinking in global sense! Enjoy...

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By tonyandrewgiles
#35001
@disco - I did, just talking about it made me think it'd been a while since I last watched it :)
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By NathanLurker
#35002
Alien.
as much as I love Aliens, Alien is the one.
I like the 3rd one has well even though it's flawed and it's such a shame that Hicks and Newt were removed right at the beginning from the narrative. the fourth one is just an oddity but there's a lot to enjoy there as well, like the messed up ife cycle of the new alien/human breed and the whole scene where the newbreed tries to follow his ''mama'' Ripley in the ship and ends up getting sucked out by the window.

The only one without flaws to me is the first one, but I like them all. I favor them in the order they were released. 1st is the best, then 2nd, then 3rd and then 4th.
By philball1974
#35006
Aliens.

Probably based on the age I first watched them. Aliens was a young film lovers dream, full of suspense and action, I hadn't seen Alien at this point, and I still remember being blown away by what I was watching. I watched the original about 2 weeks later and remember thinking it required a lot more concentration with the slower pace.

Having watched the blu ray quadrology recently I think Alien i definitely offers greater levels of suspense and is an absolute gem of a movie, but for me the nostalgia of Aliens is too much. Hearing Private William Hudson say "stop your grinnin and drop your linen" is still priceless
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By NathanLurker
#35007
The blu ray quadrology is great. I love the extra documentaries and features. I might have to put one of the movie on, tonight.
By fluppeco
#35008
Alien hands down. The whole exposition of the Alien life form in the 1st is so much more interesting/intriguing then the more present cat and mouse games in the 2-4 films. Also everytime I see it I am amazed this film is as old as I am and still holds up in every way. That's the sign of a true masterpiece.
By DISCOSUCKS...
#35013
I have a very odd and vivid recolection of the first time I saw ALIENS with friends at the flicks - we sat really close to the front, and my abiding memory is that the whole movie was like watching a tennis match for me: as in, my head was constantly whipping from one side of the screen to the other!! I think this is obviously because we were "front-row'ing" it, but it's also a mark of how incredible Cameron's use of screen-space and action are. Not to mention audience involvement!!

As I said before though, I don't even really consider the second film to be primarily Science Fiction - it's an action movie, one of the very best, and doesn't have nearly the (a-herm) "mythic resonance" of the first movie. I mean, full-grown Xenomorphs in the second film are really just relegated to moving targets for the most part! (No diss intended at all though).

Speaking of (a-herm) "mythic resonance", this is now, in retrospect of Ridley Scott's career, something he is very consciously aware of in his SF films. And for all it's niggling problems (ie A space mission put together by the most incompetent HR department in the history of space flight!) Prometheus is also stuffed full of those resonances too, which I loved :)
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By NathanLurker
#35020
[quote=35013]Speaking of (a-herm) “mythic resonance”, this is now, in retrospect of Ridley Scott’s career, something he is very consciously aware of in his SF films. And for all it’s niggling problems (ie A space mission put together by the most incompetent HR department in the history of space flight!) Prometheus is also stuffed full of those resonances too, which I loved
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For all it's flaws, I love Prometheus. the way it looks, David the android, Noomi Rapace, Charlize Theron... I think the C-section scene is super horrific. It's actually a better movie when you read about the symbolism in the movie instead of the scientific inaccuracies, and it's also interesting to read about comparison to earlier script versions and the way it turned after Damon Lindelof added his take.
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By tonyandrewgiles
#35022
I completely forgot I own Prometheus, that's going on next :)

You're right about the C-Section, that is truly horrific.
By Alekspectre
#35032
ALIEN because of the rigid direction from Ridley Scott, and it was more an hommage to the old sci-fi movies (the music of Jerry Goldsmith in the opening theme surrounds this).

ALIENS was more oriented 80's action movie, but i still love it, especially the longer version.
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By tonyandrewgiles
#35043
@alekspectre - I love the longer Aliens too :)
By Alekspectre
#35053
Yes Mr tonyandrewgiles, it's always a great pleasure to watch this on blue ray, the extended version gives more elements especially at the beginning, which wasn't superfluous, i think.
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By tonyandrewgiles
#35054
The film works both ways which is something not all 'extended bersions' do.

I think I'm going to revisit the other 2 movies and see if they hold up.
I remember Alien 3 having some really awful cgi.
By Alekspectre
#35056
Yes, alien 3 Suffer of the poor cgi fx, the only solution to me to watch it, is to make lower brightness and make the contrast weaker on my led tv. It's darker, but for me it's the real way to see it.
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By freshoj
#35068
Alien

(Glad I am old enough to have seen it before Aliens)
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By deafmetal
#35076
Alien for me. I saw it at a very young age, and it was like nothing I had ever seen before. I had seen quite a lot of sci-fi, horror, and monster films before Alien, but nothing really compared to the experience. I feel it provides excellent claustrophobic horror, and the portion of the film with Ripley in solitude really drives that home.

Aliens was like getting to go on a rollercoaster that you and your Alien-fan friends "dreamed up". It is an absolute blast, and I love it dearly. The part near the end where Ripley goes down the elevator alone brings back some of those feelings of claustrophobia I felt from Alien. It has to be one of the best action movies of the 80's, or of all time.
By Whip Wilson
#35084
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Aliens
Alien Cubed
Prometheus
AVP
AVP The New Batch
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By tonyandrewgiles
#35085
The only Alien film I managed to see at the cinema was Alien Resurrection, I was a bit too young for the first 3 but would love to see Alien on a big screen.

The tension is just too good, that and Goldsmith's score is outstanding.
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By Peek-a-boo
#35092
Did anyone go to see Alien at Jodrell Bank last week? I only heard about it after the event. That would've been pretty special
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By Purplemule74
#35116
Alien is my pick. I'm surprised that no one (sorry if I overlooked it) mentioned the phenomenal Jerry Goldsmith score for Alien. The music is the perfect accompaniment for the film. Of course the set design was and is amazing; H.R. Geiger anyone?! Come on!

I'll note that I also love Aliens. It is one of my favorite action flicks ever - a fantastic blend of horror and action. The scene where Newt is trapped and they have to shoot the window out is still wonderful suspense.

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By tonyandrewgiles
#35142
@purple - It's a genuine tough one for me, Alien wins out overall but damn Aliens is so fucking good.

Ive been sent home down to a minor form of plague so will be checking back in with Alien 3 & Resurection, I don't remember them being awful but they haven't stayed with me like the others have.
By DISCOSUCKS...
#35147
I'm a big fan of Alien Cubed - especially the imaginary what-could-have-been version.....not so much Resurrection! haha...