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By ChrisMcQueen007
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^^Melville, cold and wonderful. Not his strongest effort imo but still a damn good film. And that opening sequence with the bank robbery during the storm next to the sea in southern France is just amazing.
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By Bezulsqy
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I still need to see Un Flic...

Yesterday I finally watched another giallo. Had been ages.

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Very subdued giallo with an excellent score by Ennio Morricone. Not a lot happened and it was a bit hard to figure out what actually was going on but it was never boring. Rather excellent giallo actually.

score was released only recently for the first time on vinyl: https://www.discogs.com/Ennio-Morricone ... e/14843895
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By Hatter313
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Watching deadly blessing, never seen it. Knew it was Horner from the first note, and he definitely reused some of this stuff for something wicked a few years later.

I thought I heard bits of the theme popping up, and then at one point a character goes for a jog and it was several bars of the kids theme from something wicked down to the arrangement.
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By Hatter313
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So I’m finally watching spookies.

What an odd film, truly awesome makeup and creature effects....bizarre final product, although I guess when you have to supplement your sort of evil dead rip off plot with added footage that’s to be expected.

I kinda love it, you can’t dismiss effort, and this thing is full of effort.

Also didn’t realize that it’s a local production, filmed a few towns away from me at the Jay estate.

May have to pick the terror vision release, never gave it any thought before this, but this was all around goofy and fun and exactly the kind of gonzo nonsense I needed right now
By EvanCampbell
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Hatter313 It is like kids building a really bad clubhouse but like you said the effort was there. Some of the effects stuff was cool and the awkward amueturaty is fun to watch.
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By ScoJo
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And 50% of it was filmed without the original director's knowledge by the producer and a porno director! ;-)
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By inksb
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What a huge disappointment this was. One would assume with stacked cast of modern martial artists we would end up with film filled to the brim with insane fights. Nope, instead we get a fairly boring story about the bad guys double crossing some people and trying to kill some one. The worst part of the whole film for me though is the fact that the director and cinematographer have no idea how to shoot a fight. I shit you not it's 80% medium shots (waist up) which is very strange for fighters who focus a lot on knees and kicks, followed by 15% close-ups of "stance change/hand flex" and 5% wide shots. They also decided to use a handheld camera for most of the fights so not only can you not see their full bodies but the camera bobbles about like your mom using the vhs camcorder at your sisters birthday. It's a shame because I would really have enjoyed some well shot and choreographed fights between Tony Jaa, Iko Uwais, Michael Jai White, Scott Adkins and Tiger Chen. Scott seemed to outperform everyone in his one big fight. I went and looked up the talent behind the camera and it seems like the director has worked with Scott on a lot of movies over the past 5 years, none of them very good and that makes sense why they seemed to know how to shoot Scott a little better for his fight. The cinematographer on the other hand had like 1 action film under his belt and a bunch of drama and comedy, I'm not saying they can't have diversity in their history but this guy obviously doesn't know how to shoot action at all. Also for a film filled with this much talent when it comes to martial arts there was way too much "run around with automatic rifles spewing bullets every where" scenes. It feels like an action film that they wanted to add fight scenes to because of the cast and no one was very good at it. I feel like if you are going to do that then maybe you should go back and watch some of the best martial art films from the 80's, 90's and 00's to get a grasp on what looks good, how to make it look more realistic and how to edit it properly. There were way too many shots of very obvious pulled punches

Sorry for the rant. I always seem to go on the longest about films that don't actually work very well.
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By Hatter313
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EvanCampbell wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:37 am Hatter313 It is like kids building a really bad clubhouse but like you said the effort was there. Some of the effects stuff was cool and the awkward amueturaty is fun to watch.
I Called a friend of mine after watching it who used to work for the OTHER Jay mansion (family was prolific in these parts) as a guide and archivist. I literally described it like "We would have made this movie. its a mess, but its really kinda charming for all of that"

And I was seriously impressed with some of the effects. I'm a sucker for an awkward monster puppet...as you well know haha.
By skeletonbutt
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inksb wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:45 pm ImageSorry for the rant. I always seem to go on the longest about films that don't actually work very well.
you and me both ;) i agree about modern action movies. the hk stuff from the 80s and early 90s just gets better with age. you can appreciate the element of danger and skill required for the scenes, and it makes them that much more effective when you see two people 'really' fighting or performing stunts. john wick, etc. are fun for what they are, but when the camera moves too much to clearly see, the editing makes it difficult to follow, or the obvious cgi takes you out of the scene, the suspension of disbelief crumbles. i also notice this with car chases. technology has certainly made it easier to keep the actors and stuntmen safe but at the expense of realism and tension.
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By inksb
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It was a Hong Kong Cat III type of weekend.

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Run And Kill. Starring Kent Cheung in the main role of "Fatty". He's a normal guy who goes about working everyday to provide for his wife and daughter, works hard to give his wifes family all of his money while his own mother has to cover his business bills. One day he comes home to find his wife fucking the guy from the local grocery store. He's a bit spineless and just tells them to get dressed and then leaves. He proceeds to get drunk and accidentally get wrapped up in hiring a group of bad people to kill his wife and her fuck buddy. The plot unfolds from there in some ridiculous ways, he get's wrapped up with some even worse people who want more and more money from him which he doesn't have. It's fairly violent affair that culminates in one of the wildest finales I've seen in a long time. It involves the burning of his daughter alive while right in from of him. And then being mocked by the bad guy with his daughters crispy corpse. I actually said out loud 3 or 4 times during the finale "that's fucked up". Not entirely a successful film but fairly entertaining and just wild in it's violence. My biggest complaint is that during the first 5-10 minutes they play some of the worst music I've ever heard in a film. Just so bad. After that the rest of the score was fine.


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Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind was the third film of Tsui Hark, mostly known for his Once Upon A Time In China films of the 90's with Jet Li. This was released in 1980, had to be heavily cut just to be released theatrically and it still was labelled Cat III once the classification was established in 1988. I would never have guessed this was the same director of OUATIC 10 years prior, this film is angry and about as punk as I've ever seen come out of HK. It shows the dirty grimey under belly of HK, no glorification, just bad fucking people doing bad shit and every one getting wrapped up in it. I was incredibly impressed with this film and it's portrayal of HK in late 70's/early 80s. I won't go into details but the plot revolves around 4 teenagers that keep falling deeper and deeper into bad shit due to one of them constantly pushing them that way. The violence is aggressive and they try to keep it close to reality (although their fake blood is a bit bright). A word of warning though there are two scenes of real animal violence, I skipped past them but I read about them before hand. The opening of the film involves a mouse having a nail forced through it's head and you are left to watch it suffer, the second is way worst and it is a cat being thrown out of a second or third story window and landing in razor barbed wire, trapped and mutilating itself to death. Luckily it's pretty easy to tell where these scenes are and skip right past them and unfortunate as it makes me less inclined to recommend the movie to most people. But if you want to see a dark and gritty take on HK, one that's not normally shown in film then give this a go it's quite good.
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By ScoJo
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inksb wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:14 pm A word of warning though there are two scenes of real animal violence, I skipped past them but I read about them before hand. The opening of the film involves a mouse having a nail forced through it's head and you are left to watch it suffer, the second is way worst and it is a cat being thrown out of a second or third story window and landing in razor barbed wire, trapped and mutilating itself to death.
Jesus christ! This is an excellent warning mate, as there's no effin way I'd even risk seeing this shit, by intention or accident. That sounds genuinely horrific - a cat?? But surely they feel about cats pretty much the same way we do, even in the early 80s, in that part of the world? Oof.
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By inksb
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ScoJo wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:40 pm
inksb wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:14 pm A word of warning though there are two scenes of real animal violence, I skipped past them but I read about them before hand. The opening of the film involves a mouse having a nail forced through it's head and you are left to watch it suffer, the second is way worst and it is a cat being thrown out of a second or third story window and landing in razor barbed wire, trapped and mutilating itself to death.
Jesus christ! This is an excellent warning mate, as there's no effin way I'd even risk seeing this shit, by intention or accident. That sounds genuinely horrific - a cat?? But surely they feel about cats pretty much the same way we do, even in the early 80s, in that part of the world? Oof.
Yeah, I was warned by the person who recommended me the movie, I skimmed through the the film and found the moment right before it happens, it's the only spot in the film with a cat framed in full view so I just skipped ahead about a minute and it was over so I actually didn't see it, I read about the two scenes prior to this as well. I'm not sure what it is with animals that folks liked to make them suffer on film but Asian and Italian filmmakers were the worst in the 70's & 80's with this shit.
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By Hatter313
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Watching the bloodthirsty trilogy. Just finished “the Vampire Doll” (1970) and started up “Lake of Dracula” (1971)

Oh man where have these been all my life! I probably first heard about them from an essay from Kim Newman a while ago but could never track them down until arrow put out the Blu-ray recently. Finally using this “extra time” to watch them.

Great scores too, composer is Riichiro Manabe, who did a bunch of genre work in this period including some Godzilla’s. (And some serious prestige Japanese cinema as well from the looks of it, an Oshima or two in there) looks like there’s a CD set from Japan I’ll keep an eye out for, not wax release that I could find.
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By inksb
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Hatter313 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:23 am Watching the bloodthirsty trilogy. Just finished “the Vampire Doll” (1970) and started up “Lake of Dracula” (1971)

Oh man where have these been all my life! I probably first heard about them from an essay from Kim Newman a while ago but could never track them down until arrow put out the Blu-ray recently. Finally using this “extra time” to watch them.

Great scores too, composer is Riichiro Manabe, who did a bunch of genre work in this period including some Godzilla’s. (And some serious prestige Japanese cinema as well from the looks of it, an Oshima or two in there) looks like there’s a CD set from Japan I’ll keep an eye out for, not wax release that I could find.
I've been meaning to pick this set up and keep forgetting about it. Looks really good.
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By Hatter313
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About to throw the third one on soon, they are fun and gloomy and a real treat.

I’m on a strict “nothing you’ve seen before” binge right now combined with a “watch everything you own” rule.

I went through my blus last week and pulled out everything I had blind bought...there were like 50 titles I had never actually seen, lots of sequels to thing I liked, random one offs that shout or arrow out out that sounded interesting or had been on my radar etc.

I also compulsively buy spaghetti westerns and Cushing/Lee outings, most of the major and second tier titles of both of those groups I’m very familiar I with, but some hard to find deep cuts have only recently made their way to a good print on Blu-ray so I’m catching up on those, the stray amicus anthology or Django sequel.

One of those what Horror Express, a movie I had always been trying to watch but was always in such poor quality I never got past the first few minutes. Picked up the arrow blu a while back and finally watched it the other night....possibly the most underrated Cushing/Lee outing ever. It’s the type of genre mashup that’s always hard to pull off and be liked by most people, but the combination of gothic horror, political thriller, sci fi, and adventure really played well for me. It’s like The Thing, Murder in the Orient Express, and Lifeforce kinda wrapped up into one ball starring Cushing, Lee, and Telly Savales.
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By inksb
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Hatter313 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:42 pm About to throw the third one on soon, they are fun and gloomy and a real treat.

I’m on a strict “nothing you’ve seen before” binge right now combined with a “watch everything you own” rule.

I went through my blus last week and pulled out everything I had blind bought...there were like 50 titles I had never actually seen, lots of sequels to thing I liked, random one offs that shout or arrow out out that sounded interesting or had been on my radar etc.

I also compulsively buy spaghetti westerns and Cushing/Lee outings, most of the major and second tier titles of both of those groups I’m very familiar I with, but some hard to find deep cuts have only recently made their way to a good print on Blu-ray so I’m catching up on those, the stray amicus anthology or Django sequel.

One of those what Horror Express, a movie I had always been trying to watch but was always in such poor quality I never got past the first few minutes. Picked up the arrow blu a while back and finally watched it the other night....possibly the most underrated Cushing/Lee outing ever. It’s the type of genre mashup that’s always hard to pull off and be liked by most people, but the combination of gothic horror, political thriller, sci fi, and adventure really played well for me. It’s like The Thing, Murder in the Orient Express, and Lifeforce kinda wrapped up into one ball starring Cushing, Lee, and Telly Savales.
Yeah I recently did a similar thing, I went through all my shelves and pulled forward the discs I haven't watched yet (this pains my OCD not having everything look neat and even but it had to be done). I realized I have blurays from 3 years ago that I never watched. I've been trying to make my way through them but it's tough because a handful my wife wants to watch and she's limited on movie watching time as this is her final semester of getting her Masters degree. Hopefully this summer we will work our way through more of them. For now I just find the stuff I think she'll have no interest in.

Also I have a huge blindspot when it comes to 70's gothic horror, in particular most of the Hammer films. I know you and ScoJo are huge fans. What would be a few "necessary" pick ups?
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By Hatter313
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Ooof, that’s a tough question. So much depends on taste, a lot of the earlier ones can be a little stagey, which I’m fine with but can be a turn off for others.

I’d say definitely give the original Dracula (horror of Dracula as released here in the states) and Curse of Frankenstein a watch (curse hasn’t had a blu release in the US yet) as those are what started it all, both of those have a lot of sequels of varying quality, I actually think the Frankenstein series fares a little better than the Dracula series. The Frankenstein stuff gives Cushing the spotlight to be increasingly nuts, but the Dracula series sidelined Lee too much for my tastes, and often the best scenes in those movies are the five minutes he shows up in. However below is an off the cuff list of my personal favorites in no particular order.

Twins of Evil
The Devil Rides Out
Captain Kronos
Taste the blood of Dracula
Scars of Dracula
legend of the seven golden vampires
Brides of Dracula
Frankenstein created women
Frankenstein must be destroyed
Quartermass and the Pit (this is actually contemporary sci fi, but one of their best)
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By inksb
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Bezulsqy wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:11 pm Image
I've been seeing a lot of positive buzz around this one, let us know what you think
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By Bezulsqy
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inksb wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 10:03 pm
Bezulsqy wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:11 pm Image
I've been seeing a lot of positive buzz around this one, let us know what you think
Well, it has atmosphere. And it is not a happy movie. I think it is average.
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