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Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:55 am
by jgibbs4053
I never heard of "Into the Mouth of Madness", the video he showed for it looked pretty cool. What are everyone's opinions on it?
Also I found out you can buy some of his stuff he's selling on the tour here:
http://www.merchaye-revolve.com/john-carpenter

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:09 am
by Mateo Sanboval
Watch In The Mouth of Madness, sir. You shan't be disappointed. In fact, somewhere around here there's an STBCer knocking about who knows a thing or three about the FX in this picture...

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:12 am
by EvanCampbell
For me...In the mouth of madness is like almost there. Some of the story and effects are a bit sloppy. It needed a bit more development but it still has some cool moments and it does have kind have a loop hole at the end that gets it off the hook. I have seen every opinion from trash to brilliant so kind of check it out and see what you think!

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:16 am
by EvanCampbell
Wonder who that rotten bastard is?

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:05 am
by Mateo Sanboval
EvanCampbell wrote:For me...In the mouth of madness is like almost there. Some of the story and effects are a bit sloppy. It needed a bit more development but it still has some cool moments and it does have kind have a loop hole at the end that gets it off the hook. I have seen every opinion from trash to brilliant so kind of check it out and see what you think!
Evan's giving it a more even-tempered treatment and, to be frank, he's right. It's missing a little something. But, for me, this and Children of the Damned are the last two bastions of Classic Carpenter. He'd already strayed a bit here and there, but these recaptured the old magic in a new era. It's late and I'm beat so apologies if that's a bit obtuse.
EvanCampbell wrote:Wonder who that rotten bastard is?
Likely posts under some wacky pseudonym. You know how these show biz types can be.

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:58 pm
by Hatter313
Agree with Mateo 100% on ITMOM and village of the damned being the last bits of classic carpenter. There are some truly classic wide carpenter shots in madness, the approach to the asylum being one great example. and the Stephen King/lovecraft mashup is a lot of fun.

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:04 pm
by Spun out of control
Not directly related to the tour, but very cool doc 'Fear is Just the Beginning' on Carpenter's movies and music which is I guess about 10 or 15 years old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNNyoHqG5gM

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:46 pm
by EvanCampbell
Mateo Sanboval wrote:
Evan's giving it a more even-tempered treatment and, to be frank, he's right. It's missing a little something. But, for me, this and Children of the Damned are the last two bastions of Classic Carpenter. He'd already strayed a bit here and there, but these recaptured the old magic in a new era. It's late and I'm beat so apologies if that's a bit obtuse.[/quote]

I agree that ITMOM and VOTD were the last films that had the Carpenter stamp on it. I think if I would have seen ITMOM as a young teenager it would be up there with one of my favorites from him. Apparently Carpenter himself ranks the film highly in his body of work.

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:54 pm
by Hatter313
i have very little to say about the rest of the film, but the opening shots of Vampires feel just right, big and wide and lit the way he always does...and woods is right on par with Carpenters usual "Western Hero Not In a Western" model. I can't help but think that with a tighter script, Russell instead of Woods, and made 10 years earlier that I wouldn't have better things to say about it.

Re: John Carpenter - Live Retrospective spoiler/media thread

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:55 pm
by Mateo Sanboval
Vampires is an interesting one. I've probably seen it a half dozen times because I want to like it so much, but ultimately, well, I just don't. I like all of the trappings: concept, actors, locations, etc. Heck, I even like Thomas Ian Griffith. The execution is just off. The acting often seems forced, the dialog stilted, and the editing hurried to an almost absurd level. Just one fellow's opinion.

On another note, Someone recently told me to go back and watch Ghost of Mars (I've only seen it the once when it came out) and think of it as remake of AOP13. I'll have to give that a try.